Bob Black on Recording Kenny Baker's "Dry and Dusty" Album
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A short interview with Bob Black
conducted by Jim Moss 10-21-97:
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|JM: Well, Bob you know that I have an audio file
of your first jam
session (1973) with Kenny Baker up on the web site, tell me how
did that come about and didn't you record the Dry and Dusty album
around that time? http://www.mossware.com/greyeagle.html
BB: Kenny was going to do an album... he
already had in mind the tunes
JM: Who was that playing guitar? Was that Al Murphy?
BB: Right, ah huh... Lonnie Feiner on bass, I
don't know what ever
JM: Lonnie Feiner had played with High Country
before that record.
BB: Oh yeah, there was ah.... I remember
Rosebud, I didn't know that
JM: Who was this Rosebud?
BB: Someone that Kenny knows, I don't remember
who, I just know
JM: So, how did you record this album "Dry and Dusty"?
BB: We recorded it at "The Orchard Hill Motel" in Nashville Indiana.
JM: Was Dave Freeman there at the time?
BB: Dave Freeman was there and... I
think John Kaparakis was there too, if I
(Note: John Kaparakis is listed on the albums
credits and Dave Freeman of
JM: Dave Freeman plays? I know he owns County Records, I guess I never knew about his also being a musician.
BB: Yeah, I just went and got the album and he is
not listed on the album
JM: So, how did you get invited and then go over to the motel room?
BB: Well, we just, got to jamming with Kenny...
and it was just working
JM: Were you surprised that he did the recording in a motel?
BB: Well, a little bit, although I knew he
had done that before... on I think one
JM: It is pretty good quality... they are
definitely classic fiddle albums.. not
BB: Yeah! ... Dave Freeman had a portable
recorder that was real good, I
JM: Yeah, was it a multi track?
BB: Yeah, I think so.
JM: because it is a stereo album right?
BB: Well, that is funny... it doesn't say
anything about stereo on the album.
JM: Tell me more.. I heard stories about mattresses...
BB: They took mattresses off the beds and put them up against the wall and ah...
JM: How many beds were there?
BB: I don't remember that... I think it was a
single. I think the beds might
JM: Do you think he put the mattresses up against
the wall to deaden the
BB: Ah huh, well both, to deaden the sound and to make more room in there.
JM: That must have been a real interesting
experience... to go into a motel
BB: Yeah.. but it was one of those older kind of
motels where everything is
JM: I know the type, in High Country we traveled
in my van which had an
Of course that never happened to me...
BB: No.. I don't remember any... well, I am
sure there were problems like that,
JM: Do you remember what kind of microphones they used?
BB: No.. I wish I did. I don't have any idea.
JM: As you remember do you think they were studio mics or ...
BB: No. they were good mics... yeah, good quality
mics.. They were not
JM: So, this was in the daytime that you
recorded? Must have gone for a
BB: Yeah, we might have spent a couple of days on
it too... and then he would
JM: So you didn't record into the night then...
BB: No, we didn't go into the night time hours at
all. So Kenny probably had to
JM: So, if it took a couple of times through...
each song... to get it, that could
BB: Oh yeah, well, we didn't spend a lot of time
on each one, but he didn't...
JM: Did you each have a microphone or did you play into one microphone or..
BB: We each had our own mic. So there
was... it was a multi track machine...
JM: A reel to reel tape deck like a Teac or something like that?
BB: Yeah, that was about that size. I have
to say I didn't pay much attention
JM: Well, it sounds like you definitely impressed
them from this tape of
BB: Ahh, ha ha.... I can't wait to hear that. I
have a few tapes of jam sessions
JM: There was another fiddler there... Smokey....?
BB: Smokey McKinnis,
JM: Yeah, during one of the tapes made that
evening, Smokey offers you a
BB: Well, it was a lot easier to impress people
back in those days then it
JM: Well, lets see here... Did you make any more
albums with Kenny in
BB: Ahhh, No I think that was the only motel room
recording. I think the next
JM: You recorded "The Frost On The Pumpkin" right?
BB: Yes, well I played on half of the cuts.
JM: And that was recorded at Bradley's Barn?
BB: I am not sure on that and I don't have a copy
of it to look... (later, after
BB: The only one that I remember being recorded
at Bradley's Barn was that
JM: How was it to work with Bradley?
BB: Oh he was real nice, although again, I was so
worried about my playing
JM: Ya know I think he recorded Patsy Cline
and many many other
BB: Oh I know he recorded a lot of really famous
people and he has written
JM: Well, thanks for that insight into those
early recordings Bob and people
... end ...
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